Tragic, senseless, and horrible doesn’t even begin to describe the events of the past month. The count is now at six. Six people were bullied until they killed themselves. They were all gay or picked on for being gay. I don’t know about you, but I am horrified by this trend and I am not okay with it. You don’t have to look far to realize where our children are getting this anti-gay sentiment. With overt and subtle homophobia displayed in our political leaders, hypocritical statements from religious leaders, and downright disgusting and offensive rhetoric from celebrities (rapper/actor 50 Cent), our kids have limited choices of who to look up to. When even religious leaders spew hate, you know we are in trouble.
Justin Aaberg, openly gay and just 15, committed suicide after being bullied in school. Billy Lucas, also 15 wasn’t out, but was mercilessly bullied in school. He hanged himself. Asher Brown, 13, who told his parents he was gay the morning he shot himself in the head, was also bullied. And Seth Walsh, also just 13, hanged himself after suffering years of bullying.
The most recent death was a Johnson and Wales student, Raymond Chase, 19. A sophomore reported as openly gay, Chase apparently hanged himself in his dorm room. According to Now Public, the circumstances surrounding his death are not yet known. The most well known suicide is Tyler Clementi. Clementi, an 18-year-old college student at Rutgers University, jumped to his death from the George Washington Bridge after his roommate secretly broadcast him having sex with a man over the internet. Clementi’s room mate, Dharun Ravi and a friend, Molly Wei, used Twitter to ridicule Clementi and inform friends that “Roommate asked for room until midnight. I went into Molly’s room and turned on my webcam. I saw him making out with a dude. Yay.” Ravi then broadcast his webcam video online. Some days later, he invited his Twitter friends to a video chat while Clementi was again using the room. It has also come out that Clementi was looking for help days before the suicide. He appears to have posted several entries on a website, justusboys.com explaining his situation with his room mate and looking for help. The discussion lasted a few days with others advising Clementi to talk to his resident advisor. In his final post on the thread, on Sept. 22, cit2mo (Clementi’s screen name) wrote about having provided his dorm’s resident advisor with a written description of events. "He seemed to take it seriously," cit2mo wrote. "he asked me to email him a written paragraph about what exactly happened… I emailed it to him, and to two people above him….". Clementi jumped that same day. He posted a message at his Facebook page that read, "Jumping off the gw bridge sorry." Ravi and Wei face invasion of privacy charges in the case, and the possibility remains that they may face additional charges under New Jersey hate crimes statutes, the Associated Press reported on Oct. 1.
To make a really sad situation worse, enter 50 Cent, well known for his hatred of gays. In 2005, he infamously explained why rap and gays do not mix: “Being gay isn’t cool – it’s not what the music is based on. There’s always been conflict at the centre of hip-hop, because it’s all about which guy has the competitive edge, and you can’t be that aggressive if you’re gay.” 50 Cent also tweeted on Sept. 9 of this year: “Perez Hilton called me a douchebag so I had my homie shoot up a gay wedding. Wasn’t his but still made me feel better.” The tweet was eventually removed from the rapper’s Twitter account. But his latest tweet takes the cake. On the 29th, he tweeted, “If you a man and your over 25 and you don’t eat pu**y just kill your self damn it. The world will be a better place. Lol.” As the country mourns the death of Clementi and others, this egotistical, ignorant man is going to advise more gay teens to kill themselves. Talk about insensitive. Talk about losing your endorsements. Talk about being cruel and evil. And not that any part of that is LOL or cool. You sound like a “wanksta”.
Suicide is nothing to joke about. In 2007, it was the tenth leading cause of death in the U.S. It is the second leading cause of death among 25 to 34 year olds, and the third leading cause of death among 15 to 24 year olds. Among 15 to 24 year olds, suicide accounts for 12.0% of all deaths annually. It is scary and real. It is even worse in the gay community. Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and questioning youths are up to four times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers, according to the Massachusetts 2006 Youth Risk Survey.
Fortunately, some celebrities are trying to bring this disturbing trend to light. Talk show host and comedian Ellen DeGeneres recorded a Sept. 30 message talking about the deaths. DeGeneres called the rash of suicides "a crisis," and said, "This needs to be a wakeup call to everyone that teenage bullying and teasing is an epidemic ion this country, and the death rate is climbing." She goes on to say, "These kids needed us and we have an obligation to change this. There are messages everywhere that validate this kind of bullying and taunting, and we have to make it stop. We can’t let intolerance and ignorance take another kid’s life."
If you or anyone you know is thinking about suicide, please call National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 1-800-273-TALK. There are plenty of resources out there to help young people that are struggling with sexuality. Please ask someone.
This is so sad it made me cry. I %$#@& hate ’50 cent’, i put quotation marks around his ‘name’ because its a stupid name, he is the worst thing that has ever happened to this world, #$^% him! All this shit about ‘eating $&$&’ the only woman thats ever been in his bed is his %^%&^ dog. Which fyi is called a bitch, just what you deserve you stupid %$&^ of ^^&%&. :@
omg yu are so right:)
I am severely spiritual persecuted by forces that i did not even brought into my account in life, yet there is no power in this world other than our heavenly father’s power who, or what can protect us from commiting suicide or dying by suicide. Killing your self does not fix things, do not change things, do not stop the suffering. is just a big excuse to say i can not keep on going i must stop and die.
When the Lord Jesus Christ Resurrected on the third day for your salvation he took the whole creation on his weight and set you free from any proclamation of horror and terror. Is like he sliced the whole dimension of your life and set you free. All you need to know is that it is truth. Nothing separates you from the love of your heavenly father, not even the most difficult times for the difficult times are the ones that give you strenght and character. Do not face the Lord God Almighty face to face and dare to tell him “I can not keep on going” Because there is no cell nor form of existance that the lord god almighty has not yet touched and created to give you protection and keep you safe from any harm. He loves you before you was even born. Before you can start the recopilation of your toughts he errased from the face of the earth every source of confrontation that you might come in front of. Find him seek him learn from him get to know him in a close relationship do not depart from him for he is your shelter and your shield. Every sound of existance he has already prepared for you. At some times is just the ignorance of people about love that keeps you from being reached, yet never forget that the love is there around you to remind you of who you truly are. Do not kill yourself. Love yourself do not ever forget that he said “I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU NOR FORSAKE YOU” AMEN.
for this cause god gave them up,unto their vile affection that they call love
I know this is sad but kelly 50 cent is not the worst thing to happen to this world. Lets try and separate your emotions with your logic. Someone like Hitler, Christopher Columbus, Mussolini, Bush family might be a better answer
Christopher Columbus was in the running for worst things to happen??? LOL
50 cent is an idiot for sure–and vastly overstates his worth as a person besides. However, to mix great people such as Christopher Columbus and the Bush family in with vile creatures such as Mussolini and Hitler is cretinous on your part. How do you like this list of mine–in the same vein as yours: Hitler, Jimmy Carter, Mussolini, FDR, Hugo Chavez, Nancy Pelosi, Satan, Barack Hussein Obama, Karl Marx, Joseph Stalin, Harry Reid, Pol Pot, Jesse Jackson, the head of the Ku Klux Klan, Al Sharpton,
To Be honest… I’m gay and to read about all of this just makes me angry…. i’ve stood up for all bullied LGBTQ members that i’ve seen and it seems to help a little… but to hear that these 6 teens killed themselves because they couldn’t stand it upsets me. It upsets me how people abuse and bully people just because they don’t follow the status quo. Well i’m sorry, but this is 2010, no one really follows the staus quo anymore… so stop trying to change gays and lesbians and bi-sexuals and trans-gendered people, because even if they kill themselves, they still died with that same sexuality. No where is there ever a story where a gay guy got bullied into being straight! He may just have acted straight but on the inside he was still gay. No one can influence what people like and prefer, they can only put in their opinions.
I’ve been dealing with abuse, bullying, and criticism for over 4 years and i can’t say that its easy, because its not. Its tough to take all of those negative opinions and just stuff them in your back pocket. I’ve personally called the suicide hotline 5 times in my life and my friends have called for me 3 times. I honestly hate to hear about homo-sexual teens committing suicide, it eats away at me; making me think that someday that will be me. But like i’ve said before i’ve taken the criticism and i’m a reformed self-mutilator, but i’ve still got my friends with me behind me and beside me all the time. If i lose a friend i always find 2 more to join to the group just in case something doesn’t turn out right.
If anybody needs someone to talk to about anything… i will personally converse with them through e-mail… in fact, if you are LGBTQ or if you know someone that is LGBTQ, and you think that you need someone to talk to, then just e-mail me at:
notafraidofcrying13@yahoo.com
i swear this is not a joke… if you want help… e-mail me…
Sincerely Concerned,
Starla Callahan (Age 16)
Thank you i was just this am trying to point out that even joking in a derogatory way regarding someones sexuality using negative & degrading terminology Not funny at any level. People joke saying “its only funnty till someone gets hurt / then its hilarious” it usually starts by poking fun & turnes into like this someone dies Thanks for putting yourself out there for anyone who is being teased or bullied!!!,
This is not 50 cents fault. People should be stronger than they are and not let bullying or trash talk lead to suicide. I was picked on everyday at school when i was a youth and i am still alive today, because i ignored them and didnt let it rule my life. Its a pity these guys felt they had no one to talk too, but maybe they didnt know where to look or where to go. There is so much support for gays and lesbians in the world. I just dont understand how suicide was their answer. Its like the bullies won in the end. Were these guys looking for pity, or did they actually believe this was the only way out? Self murder is a sin, they’ll never be able to redeem themselves.
lona you are a bad person. how dare you talk about them after their passing. they were children & harassed children. why don’t you keep your comments to yourself if they are not sensitive or caring. doubt it was a pity party. unlike your praise me party cause i didn’t kill myself.
i agree with brooke im 12 yrs old im in a school program called S-W-A-T bullying isnt a laughing matter. commiting suicide isnt a sin maybe these children are happier in heaven lona dont start saying mean comments about these children R-I-P to all the children and teens that have commited suicide ovr being bullied
i agree completely with brooke…. you need to be a little more sensitive… after all, they had to take all of that bullying and abuse… after a while it just gets old and tiring
I agree with brooke and starla. you need to put yourself in their shoes. i guess you dont know what its like to be gay… but it isnt a walk in the park.
everone in school has been bullied ,it is a part of growing up.Too me they were cowards for not fighting back like real people, instead they go and murder themselves
Hm! young, ignorant, and perhaps suffering herself. No judgment, she’s done enough.
Be well Iona!
well 50 cent is dumb && omg ive been bullied all my life && i still am but ugh it hurts jus hearing about teen kids killing them selfs
I don’t think lona was trying to be rude. I think that what she was inplying was that they should look at it as if they are in middle or elementary school to over look the remarks. I understand and definitely know how it feels to be bullied. I tell my kids to over look them that the people saying the stuff is very immature or has issues of their own and is taking it out on others. I am not taking sides, but yes it is very sad that they was kids and they probably couldn’t have handled it anymore and thought it was the only way out. It has nothing to do with 50 cents what so ever, but when there is like a town or a entire school picking on you and nothing gets done it leads to a tragedy. I am not gay, but I do feel that everyone no matter who they are should be treated equally. I do believe the greatest sin is killing yourself, but all we can do is pray for the family and for the kids that died and to remember them for the good times. I do not no them, but no matter what they was loved whether they knew it or not. I just hope this can make teens stronger and to stand up to bullying.
Lesa, again same question I posed to Iona, WHERE in the BIBLE does it state that suicide is the only unforgivable sin? The only thing that Jesus says that God will not forgive is Blaspheme. For those of you that don’t know what this is, it is not believing the Jesus is the son of God and that Jesus was sent here to die for our sins also showed us how much God loves us that he gave his only son to die for our sins that he who believe in him shall no perish but have internal life in His kingdom. AND if they took their lives and asked God for forgives of their sins and accepted Jesus at the time of their death they too will go to heaven. THIS very unfortunate belief that ‘suicide’ is the ONLY unforgivable sin has come from the Catholic religion and maybe some others but NOWHERE in any of the versions of the Bible I have here at home state anything about suicide be an unforgivable sin. Yes, murder is ONE of the TEN commandments but murder is taking of anothers life not your own. FOOD for thought, is a person feels they have no choice and their soul, heart and mind is so tormented for whatever reason, believe me God knew their troubles and torment. Why he didn’t stop them is the question I will have for God when I meet him when my time is up!
Where does it say that self murder is a sin and if it is it is no bigger sin than lying. Plus it is 50 fault because if is an idol to young kids and he says these things than the younger population will think that it is ok too.
Catholicism and the King James Bible, says taking ones own life is a mortal sin…
Parents are responsible for influences on their children, no one else. Keeping an open environment for communication is crucial for all children. If a stranger like 50-Cent can influence someone to commit suicide, then several parents are not doing their jobs. I saw this man on a cable show treating women like garbage. He treats everyone like garbage. Clearly his fans agrees with him. My children were taught examples of what is right and wrong. Even if they hear his music, they will understand why he is not the kind of role model to emulate. People are not always going to like you for a wide variety of reasons, including, but not limited to sex, race, religion, political choices, friends, etc., etc. Self-worth comes from being in a supportive home environment. If you want to blame someone, look there first!
Uhmm hunny thats very rude, how would you like it if people sat there and talked shit on you, when you just killed yourself??!! you obviously dont know what they were feeling. you need to open your eyes and think real hard and put yourself in the’re shoes. what if you were gay and many people laughed at you and bullied you to the point where you wanted to kill yourslef? it would not be your fault, so give these people a break and leave them alone!! damn society sucks ass!!!!!
YOU are so wrong…First there is NOTHING in the Bible that says anything about what you called ‘self murder’ . Second you must live in a cave, celebrates, entertainers, sports figures and even our politicians have a huge impact on our society, thoughts, cultures, actions and even what we ‘think’ is the most important thing in life…FAME & FORTUNE! Third what you don’t realize is that while all of us grew up with, to some extent, being bullied…some people just can’t let it roll off their backs. It’s really NO different than some people having a stronger immune systems to certain diseases. YOU tell me WHERE in the Bible it refers to ‘self murder’ as a sin that is never redeemable and I will owe you an apology. AND yes, to your question about was suicide what they thought was their only way out? YES, because people like you that have closed minds and can pass judgment like it’s nothing. I suggest you take a hard look in the mirror at yourself and tell me that you have NEVER had a thought, if only for a fleeting second, that I can’t take it anymore. AND by the way, what pity are those that fall to suicide, getting? They certainly aren’t here anymore to see or “reap” any pity!
Iona- I understood where you were coming from until that last line. You do realize that a religious take on the issue is the wrong avenue don’t you? Being gay is also a “sin” according to that book that you’re quoting, and in light of recent events and the continuing suicides, I think that you should choose your words more wisely.
Yes, I do wish that those boys had of recieved help before it was too late, and I do believe that suicide is not the right choice. But, damning someone is not the way to go.
Well said Morgan! Religious people these days are going to have to realize that Earth is changing and they will HAVE TO transcend their beliefs to be able to understand the new higher energies on Earth now. If they really want to go there, these kids were murdered, if you think about it. I am sure Iona would murder herself if she was bullied to death because of who she is and had nobody to talk to or escape too as well. Sorry, Iona, but that is the truth honey!
By the way, Fu-dge 50 cents! I’ve never liked him nor will I ever! He is ignorant as hell and not talented at all. Who cares that he was shot 50 million times. He allowed his $$$ to make his ass stupid.
That ****ed Yup, gays are just like us, they just like the same sex as they are…. I use to like 50 Cent now i am never going to lissen to him again because he is just a *****
thats not my real email to start out with, and Lona sometimes religion does have something to do with it because muslims live a life that is basically told to them (no being racist) other then that im not gay i dont like guys not even for one second but if you post something like this up im gonna be commenting because thats sad that someone would bully some kid thats gay you can seriously just fuken keep it to yourself you dont have to make fun of the damn person, the real answer is if your a fuckin human being you would be able to accept everyone out their for who they are and what they do, again im not gay and never will be but its sad to see people bully others because their gay, thats what makes the U.S. the best country in the world that its a free country and people should fuckin keep shittt to them selves
IDC IF YOU THINK IM WRONG BUT THIS IS MY OWN OPINION just thought i should comment
I have always hated that no talent hack 50 cent. That is about all he is worth, and he should be ashamed of himself. He was in a position to be helpful and stop the violence but he made hateful comments instead. As a human being I will not stand for idiocy like this and all those that listen to hip hop to boycott 50 Cent and burn his albums if you have any.
To the families that lost those children, my condolences to you all. To the bullies and bas*ards that do things to cause grief you can all f**k off.
They need to stop this. People have RIGHTS to like somebody else even if its the same gender. Ugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! People need to shut up and I hope those bullies get bullied some day. I want them to fall down a loooong hill. I dont care if vilence isnt the answer. But in this case we have to show the bullies what its like. I heard a friend of a gay that was bullied tried to stand up for him but HE got suspended. That is ILL. ~ Lilac is ready for a flame war ~
Being Gay May Be A Sin.. But No One Said That Everyone Lives By That Book… Everyone Believes In Something Different So Everyone Just Has To Accept It…
just think erin…these are the six known gay teens to kill themselves in the last month…how many kill themselves before even coming out due to fear of ridicule…hard to believe…i have a 15 yo son…couldnt imagine the loss…have a nephew…now 25…who attempted suicide twice prior to coming out…luckily hes now a well adjusted and accepted young adult…he said fear of reaction was his youthful problem…godn bless them …darla
It really, truly is a shame that they killed hemselves, but maybe they’ll be happier, where ever they are now. Being bullied is hard. I know. I’m lucky to have friends who accept me for being bi.
x
Well, I have to go write my essay for History class.. “What would you do to make the world a better place?”
Stop the gay discrimination.
Hear, hear, eh?
I’m working hard on it, so I can be proud of it, and show it to my lesbian grandmother.
Starla
October 27, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Don’t wish that the bullies will get bullied cuz then you’d be just as bad as they are, wishing harm on someone else…
And there may be 6 known gay teens who killed themselves…but there are also some straight people in there who just committed suicide for being called gay… i knew one of them… and its tough to lose someone like that… but we can’t dismiss the other teens who weren’t publicly outted that killed themselves…but then again, i’m not saying its a good thing to do, but they aren’t always happier after they commit suicide… for all we know they could be regretting it…
and to you people that keep saying you hate 50 cent… stop making it about him… its not about him… its about these poor children who are my age dying and killing themselves because of this dilemma… Its going to take a long while for the world to get used to LGBTQ…but we all just have to stick it out and stick together… no one is alone in this fight against the ridicule… trust me… i deal with it every day now recently.
In fact, as an example of the ridicule that some of us have to go through…
Last saturday i went to the mall with my girlfriend and we were walking when these guys scream “faggots” and chase us into sears, and beating the hell out of me just because i was walking, holding hands with my girlfriend… i didn’t even let them touch my girlfriend… i took all the punches…. and i don’t regret taking the blows for her… but just think about how escalated it can get… do you think that anyone in the mall bothered to help us? No… no one helped or even attempted to.
Think about that and then try to make smart remarks towards religion now… if God really loved us this much then why would he let me get beaten up in the mall on saturday and not signal anyone to help?
Does that mean that he doesn’t care about me?
so do you see what you make gay people think when you constantly bring up sin and religion?? this is not a religious matter, this is a social and global issue.
Sincerely Bruised Beaten and Scarred,
Starla
i think this is really said because gay and lesbians are just like regular people we arent drifferent we are still the say but just eather gay or lesbian i know dat for a fact because iam lesbian and i dont change for know one
Good One Jessica! Be Proud! ^-^
i feel really bad for all these kids cause i almost killed my self cause of being bullied im glad i didnt
I agree and dis agree with a lot of what you people are saying. These were young kids that were harassed and bullying is hard to take. And when you feel like you are all alone it’s hard to realize that there are so many people out there who can understand you. I say this but even for me this is a hard thing to realize. When you hit a level of depression it’s like your in a ditch with no sunlight and everyone’s looking down at you thinking how much it sucks to be you. That’s what these kids felt probably. I don’t think suicide is the right thing to do. But I think if your in so much pain i think God will eventually release you from that pain. And that is what he did for these kids. Im not saying at all that gays, mentally ill, or anyone that has this feeling should commit suicide. Im not saying that at all. I think that now people need to learn from this indecent. Bullies need to just get the fuck on with their lifes and not care about others. And People that are being discriminated against need to stand up and let them know what’s up now. I mean come on my life isn’t good at all. But Im still here. So My luck to all those in pain. Just keep your eye on the sky.
I Like The Way You Think Nikki…You Tell Em
Thank you for saying these kind words… they may help someone who needs it.
I don’t like how we gays,n lesbians and transgender are being put down and discriminated for how we are think and what we perfer. We don’t judge how straight people think and why they perfer the opposite genderno. Do we put you down no we are accepting and open minded and to read how they aren’t It makes me sick and to read this it makes me cry . KNowing how they thought that killing themselves was the only way to get away from all this hate and discriminating people it makes me sick. How could you do this to someone who was born like you and learn to talk like you and walk like you but perfers a different gender or the same or a girl who wants to be a guy or guy who wants to be a girl . Like to be accepting and life would be better.
wats funny is that people say “oh being gay is wrong because it says so in the bible” well people there is a whole lot more things that are said in the bible and yet people dont listen to all that and actually go sin their asses off so y should they hate and if people are gonna say because of the bible well get shit straight and if ur gonna say its the bible then do everything the bible says not just use it as an excuse to hate gay people
Exactly, the Bible says that it’s a sin to have sex before you’re married, and how many people are bullied because they have sex in high school? Getting divorced is also a sin, according to the Bible, but how many conservative adults have gotten divorced and then run to their Bibles for “protection” against gay people? Let’s see, the Bible also says that you have to go to church every Sunday, you have to give to the poor, and pay tithe to the church you go to. Does anyone follow those rules to the letter as well? Because if you don’t, you have no right to tell me that being gay is a sin because the Bible says so.
well if the topic were one of those things, then they might say it was a sin. The topic is about “gay” people, so that is why being gay is referred to as being a sin. You are absolutely correct, no one follows th bible to a “T,” but we as people need to focus on who we are and change that person, in turn changing the world. Everything starts at home. If these teens had a “relationship” with their parents, they may not have felt so alone. Parents need to be more focused on their children and take responsibility for them as young adults. Parents also need to be able to talk to there children and have a relationship where their child feels comfortable talking to them. Is this a 100% full proof plan? NO, but in my opinion, if more parents step up to the plate and be parents, some of the issues that are coming about with teens wouldn’t be issues.
It is very sad that these teens didn’t or couldn’t talk to anyone. They were human and somebody did and still does love them. If we stop focusing on some of the dumb things that people say and become advocates for what you believe in, then this place that we call America can be a better place. You can’t always detect when someone is going to do something, but if you stand and just watch someone getting bullied or beat up, then you are just as bad as the person doing it.
I could go on forever, but I won’t. Peace be with you all and remember focus on changing who you are because you can’t change other people.
Why are people bullied for being gay? Why is it considered a sin?
The only reason why I ask is because recent study shows being gay, lesbian, bisexual, etc… It all has something to do with genes, meaning you’re born that way and you CAN’T change the way you’re born
So if you can’t change how you’re born or your genes are made why would being gay be a sin? It’s not their fault they’re born that way.
I feel sad that in some churches they don’t even allow gays to enter but next thing you know a bunch of serial killers might be going to church.
I hate the fact that these people were bullied for being themselves. What happened to rights? freedom? What happened to that?
I hope that people would stop the discrimination and just accept people for who they are.
I hope people who discriminate would get a taste of their own medicine. Why? Because what if most of the population were gays, lesbians, bi’s, etc and being straight was the weird thing and all straight people were discriminated by the bigger part of the population?
I hope all the souls of suicide victims especially who died because of bullies will rest in peace
btw I still am Christian. I still believe in God and what not. I just hate bullies.
I agree. Imagine if twins were bullied, or left-handed people. Those are both things that people are born with, and you have as much control over that as you do over being gay. It makes no sense.
Its not sad, it is what it is.
-I will never stick up for anyone who takes their own life EVER. Not even if it was my brother, sister, son, daughter.
-The way I see it, Suicide is the most selfish thing anyone can do.
-Everyone gets bullied by someone in life, no one is immune.
-Bullying takes on so many different forms in life that no one will ever be bully-free.
-Learn to deal with it, or go be a selfish baby.
These are my opinions, and of course opinions are like a55holes- everybody has one. I do not expect the world to agree with me, and I probably do not agree with you.
Do not waste time bullying me because you don’t like what I say, you are a hypocrite.
Apparently Johannes, you are unfamiliar with mental illness. People are behaving selfish when they have a chemical imbalance. You have been very fortunate to not have to deal with major depression. It is a disease like any other and is not something that can be controlled by self will. No one who takes their own life is selfish. They are just very deluded and honestly feel that everyone would be better off without them. Young people especially do not necessarily have the insight or the impulse control of adults. Your incredibly insensitive comments display your lack of insight.
I respect your opinion, Johannes, but calling mentally ill people “selfish babies” is wrong. I agree with Erin, depression is a mental illness, and its hard to get out of it. And you can’t get out of being gay. These people are suffering and you slinging invective at people who are in a terrible place is awful. But that’s just my opinion.
I agree, I’ve been depressed before, so bad that i had to start medication for it. It is NOT fun, and you CAN’T think about anything else, it’s like you are stuck…. I hope you never have to deal with depression, any of you, but I hope that even if you do, that you have people to love and support you like I had. I know that it might seem “selfish” to kill yourself, but honestly, how can you expect a depressed person to think of you when they are going through something so painful? That seems selfish to me, when you expect someone to think of you when they are going through that…
Hi guys, well im doing a huge research paper on gay marriage, i was woundering if some of you guys who would read this can help me out just a bit and make me understand y its wrong or y its right?? If you can please email me to ilovepooh_3@yahoo.com thanks, Olivia
@ Olivia, I don’t think that there’s anything wrong with gay marraige for the simple fact that people are trying to define marraige as something sacred and holy. When in today’s time it’s nothing close to sacred anymore. It’s a contract between two people through whatever state they live in. That’s it…. if they wanna go so far as to reject gays from getting married they should also reject anyone who is non-christian from getting married because they also (in a sense) are “violating” the rights of marraige which is defined as a “holy, sacred relationship between a man and woman” defined by the Bible. Sacred meaning god fearing/following person.
Honestly I think people are seriously retarded and before they go around gay bashing they should worry about what’s going on in their own lives. Who are we to tell gay people that their lives are a sin? Last time I checked everybody in the world is sinning if you want to abide by what the Bible says. The bible also states that we shouldn’t eat pork and women should be silenced in teh church… SOOOO what gives us the authority to void out somethings in the Bible and condemn other people and have the authority to “refer” back to the Bible. Give me a freaking break…. It just doesn’t make any sense!!!!!!! The way people act just flat out disgusts me…. Seriously world…. GET IT TOGETHER!!!!
ok look!! bottom line is most gay ppl are not excepted! is it right that they kill themselves absolutley not! but it states in the bible that gay ppl litterally make God sick. i mean lets think about this really he destroyed a whole town of gays. but bottom line is you can’t blame anyone for stating how they feel about gay ppl. I date black men and im a white woman and i have things said to me everyday but that doesnt mean im gonna go kill myself! If you dont want to live just b/c your gay or have to be teased a little b/c your gay then you make that decision but to be honest ppl that kill themselves are very selfish ppl!!!!!
Why are people saying its selfish unatural unholy and crap like that we are not the only animal that are homosexual or bisexual lions tiger elephants AND bonobos have been seen doing homosexual acts so how dare u say its unatural when even nature does it please if u don’t feel anything for these kids then u are not human we don’t have FULL control of are brain and emotions so please as a gay teen my self gay teens are 4 times more likely to do suicide then straight teens and cry babies damn u ^&%&^% u all that say its a sin unatural and crap like that and please stop saying fag uhhhh ok
i $^&$% myself everyday & im gay !!!
i go to a.i dupont middle school .
i’ve been bullied quite a bit lately, because i am openly gay and feel like i just want to end my life to end this torment.
Jan, I hope that you can see that those people who are bullying you aren’t worth your attention, and that you should be proud of yourself. It probably took you a lot of courage to come out, and I am so sorry that a few a**holes are making you miserable. Please talk to your friends and family about how you’re feeling, and I know they can help you through this.
Gays n lesbians are not the first to be bullied or discriminated againgst. They are also not the only ones to committ suicide as a result either. Bottom line –bullying and discrimination needs to stop!!!!
All you people are up in arms over gays and lesbians being desciminated against. Just ask any elderly African American, or any young African American about discrimination.,which still goes on today. They killed themselves, they werent hung from a tree , like the blacks back in the 50′s and before that.. The jews didn’t hang themselves while waiting to go into a gas chamber or while they were being torturted in Germany. They didn’t hang themselves while being driven fron Egypt. You do not have a full grip on what discrimation really is. While growing up in the fifties, some of my classmates might have been gay but no one even thought about that and we all got along just fine. Thy same when i was in the Marines we all got along fine. gay right’s ? Our Constitution and Bill of right’s spelled it all out. There is help out there for these people. And i take exception to using the word gay , because gay meant having a good time or being happy, Its very sad we have to deal with this when the world is falling apart, God help us all.
The subject of suicide makes me cringe. And to make matters worse, it’s because people cannot keep their emotions and opinions to themselves about another persons sexuality or preferences. It’s one thing to be open about your sexuality, but to embrace and to be shot down is just horrible. I’m seventeen years old and both of my best friends (female and male) are gay. I absolutely love them with every fiber of my being and cannot imagine what I would do in life without them. They’re not anal about their sexual preferences and they don’t shove their opinions down my throat. They just simply like what they like and I simply like what I like. It’s as peaceful as that. However; you’ll have those bastards who spew their smart ass banter about religion. “Homosexuality isn’t natural!” We live on Earth, where EVERYTHING around us is natural. I’m an Atheist, and nothing makes my blood boil and my gears grind more than when somebody equates sexuality to religion. Wouldn’t homosexuals be too ashamed to attend church or pray to their Savior if they’re being categorized as the people who will roast in the fiery pits of hell for eternity? Just for loving somebody who’s the same sex? That’s lovely. I’m tired of watching my generation $$&$$%#$%# themselves.
all they have to do is stop being homosexual
we dont have to